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The Cosmos II is now in my hands, before it's even available for retail sale! :D

However as I feared, the HWLabs SR-1 needs an extra 5mm to fit properly without hanging over the motherboard. I have come to a possible solution, but I want your advice!

My solution to the problem, since it's basically just the EPS12V connector that is being problematic, if I remove it from the plastic connector and plug the "molex" pins directly into the motherboard, I can fit the board in fine as it tucks up in behind the radiator. Granted I haven't tried with my P6TD (which has heatsinks along the top edge) but I think it will fit. Can always chop the heatsink if needed.

But my question is, is this "safe"? I was thinking maybe using some hot-glue or something to ensure they stay in and give it some insulation in case anything leaks onto it or it touches the radiator. Pictures show how it looks.

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And here's some pictures to show just how huge this case really is, compared to the Antec 900:
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Honestly I was a bit shocked after unboxing it although I should of known when it barely fit into the trunk of an Accord.

Extremely well built and I can see why it's receiving such rave reviews. The more I look at it, the more I want to keep it and either buy a new radiator, or proceed with my modified EPS12V connection. But that's where I need your feedback! What should I do?! :doh:

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Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:38 pm
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i enjoyed my Cosmos S. took a bit of modification to fit extra radiators in the case.... but that's part of the fun :D

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Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:16 pm
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An idea came to mind, what if the SR1 360 could fit in the bottom bay? I thought, no way that won't be possible, but when I put it down there it fit :shock:

Decided to proceed with installing the provided rad support brackets and was able to line up 4 holes with my radiator. Seems to hold well enough.

Obviously I'm missing a fan in the photos, that was due to laziness. This was more of a test fit just to make sure things would work. The PSU however is pretty tight. It's basically forced into place. If it wasn't for the modular connections, it would likely be fine. Again, the plastic housing on these connectors is too damn big!

I do still have about 1cm of space in the front of the case though. I figure if I make my own bracket (somehow) that I'll be able to mount the radiator up closer, and hopefully alleviate the PSU tightness.

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That Cosmos II looks very cool ... 8-) (and very BIG!)

I take it the Silverstone FT02 is off the bench for now, huh? ;)

I haven't ever run into a problem with EPS12V connectors. Man, that seems to be a bit of a sticky-wicket there ole boy. :mrgreen:

I don't suppose there's an aftermarket 90 degree connector out there ... :roll:

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Yeah, no more FT02 ideas. I think the Cosmos II will fit more in the long run ;)

As for the EPS12V, since I have the radiator in the bottom, it's no longer an issue. I think eventually I'll get a XSPC EX240 or EX360 to put up top and run dual-loops. For now though, I'm trying to keep costs to a minimum. The case was $350 and I ordered some bits and pieces from P-PCs for $100. Trying to keep things under the $500 mark :whistle:

And I'm just copy and pasting my posts from HWC...

I would say CM designed the case around the assumption people only run 1 set of fans on their radiators, and use the more standard single-pass designs that come in around 35mm. In this configuration, you could fit a 360 and 240 in the case no problem. You could even fit a 120/140mm on the rear fan too. To go even more extreme, you could fit a 180/200mm in the front and remove all the HDD bays. Potentially speaking, you could have more than enough radiator surface area for the most demanding of systems.

I'm by no means saying this is the best idea, but there's no one-size-fits-all case IMO. We all have our own wants/needs, especially with regards to styling. I'm recieving no compensation from any parties, it's merely my POV. There's a solution to every problem if you're willing to think outside the box :thumb:

Anyways, I fixed up the radiator mounting (for the most part). I was able to use the existing holes already in the HDD cage vertical supports. Got rid of the provided radiator brackets. This means the front of the radiator is secured, but the end near the PSU isn't, thus I have an eraser sitting under it for now. Obviously I need to find a more permanent solution.

It clears up the tightness by the PSU thankfully. The cables are no more strained than they were in my FT01 with them bending sharply into the backside of the case, so I don't think I'll have any issues.

Kind of hard to photograph without some proper lighting (which I don't have) and my laptop's LCD is pretty crappy, so "auto tone" hopefully is good enough :whistle:

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i remember i had a fun time modding my Cosmos S back in 08 too :) that 360 does look like a tight fit sitting at the bottom, are you sure it won't fit on the top? is it because of obstruction with the motherboard mosf heatsink?

when it's all up and running.. you'll be one happy man.. :) i know i was. the modding part is the fun part... the final finish is the reward. i remember i had to fabricate different brackets to make the resevoir fit with the case, and drill separate set of holes to fit the extra 120mm rad on the back. and cut out a few pieces of plastic with dremel so that i could fit two sets of fans on the top vent to do push/pull rad fan configuration, and last but not least, custom paint my own coat of paint ont the outter case.

who knows.. maybe i'll wait a couple more years and give my wife my Cosmos S and get a Cosmos II for cheap :) i think the bottom 240mm rad space is the most beneficial improvement from Cosmos S that i like. 360mm + 240mm sounds like a kick ass setup :D

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The top only has 50mm of space. My radiator is 55mm, so as I said, it hangs over the first set of motherboard screws. The RAM would be impossible to remove, and the EPS12V wouldn't fit. The MOSFET heatsinks were basically pressing against the radiator edge. It just really wasn't the most ideal place. A slimmer radiator (single-pass) would fit without a problem though. I don't feel like spending much money currently though, rather save up and overhaul everything at once.

As such, in the bottom it stays. This means I could buy a slim 360 and put it up top for maximum radiator space :) Probably what I'll do eventually.

Rigged up a radiator support system out of some steel L-brackets. Bent one of them to secure into the upper fan mount, which puts the radiator on a slight angle so the fan nearest the PSU isn't up against the support pillar. If it's too close, the fan gets pretty noise from the air resistance. Used another L-bracket in it's original form on the bottom to hold up the radiator.

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Who do you know that was able to get you that Cosmos II? Geez, didn't know you're so close to royalty ... hehe.

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Got it off one of the HWC reviewers :) Thankfully he only lives about 20 minutes away (downtown Toronto), so no crazy shipping fees!

I was originally buying it on behalf of my friend, but once I got it and looked at it, I called it my own :D

I've now cleaned the radiator and mounted it for good, along with neatly wiring the fans into the built-in fan controller.

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i remember i had quite a bit of hard time getting the side panel to close fully with all the wires bulging out through the back. i am wondering if they leave more room this time between the side panel and the inners.

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BAM! wrote:
i remember i had quite a bit of hard time getting the side panel to close fully with all the wires bulging out through the back. i am wondering if they leave more room this time between the side panel and the inners.

There's tons of space! Even with the wires like how they are now, the panel closes without any force.

Better yet, it's curved outwards near the end of the drive bays where you'd typically run the majority of cables, so there shouldn't be any worries at all.

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i am glad they finally addressed that problem... with a case as big as the Cosmos series... one would think there should be enough space to accommdate all the wires created by the extra components that were designed to fit in there.

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Which brings up an interesting question ... Just how heavy will that build end up being? My FT02B/W is one heavy mofo ... and it's air-cooled ... :geek:

I suppose water-cooling may or may not contribute to the overall weight, nonetheless, it's gotta be hard on the back when hefting that bad boy around ... ;)

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i can hardly lift mine up.. and that's with 1X360mm rad + 1X120mm rad.

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Let's not go there ;)

It's 50lbs empty...so I can only imagine what it'll weight when I'm done with it. I'm guessing around 75lbs? But that's why it has handles! Makes it marginally easier to pickup at least.

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So I bit the bullet and drilled a hole in the case :doh: Thankfully it came out as intended!

Basically from the radiator, up through the wire grommets, and back to the reservoir would of resulted in a ton of tubing and wouldn't look too great. As such, I drilled out a hole to fit my BP drain/fillport that I had in my previous case. I lined it up as best I could with the radiator barbs, and as close as I could to the hard drive bays (but obviously the Dewalt drill is a bit big).

With a 90 and two 45's joined together, I was able to get a pretty much straight run of tubing. The tubing was curved previously, so after a while I think it'll straighten out some more.

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Majority of the wiring is done, just need to do the SATA cables and then the pump once all the tubing is in.

BTW, is my GPU too bent? I don't know...it looks pretty bad. I could try making the CPU-to-GPU tubing a little shorter in hopes of pulling it up, but it looks like I should have some sort of support rod on the back end of the GPU.

Well I had just enough to get everything plumbed up other than from the GPU to the radiator.

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Finally together fully, doing some leak testing/bleeding now (so far so good!).

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Looking forward to some more high-quality pics (a dig at Comixion of course ... :lol: )

Make sure you include some of your res/pump in the case ... okay?

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Wow...it's looking good JD. Nice job w/ the tube routing.

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