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Post Apple releases Thunderbolt (Lightpeak) I/O Technology.
I can not begin to describe how excited I am about this technology. Its abilities will quickly become the standard for all devices, I'm sure of it.

The fact that peaks my interest the most is the ability to dasiy chain up to 6 devices, INCLUDING Your monitor.

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One small port. One giant leap in possibilities.
MacBook Pro now gives you access to a world of high-resolution displays and high-speed peripherals with one compact port. That’s because Thunderbolt is based on two fundamental technologies: PCI Express and DisplayPort.

PCI Express is the technology that links all the high-performance components in a Mac. And it’s built into Thunderbolt. Which means you can connect external devices like RAID arrays and video capture solutions directly to MacBook Pro — and get PCI Express performance. That’s a first for notebooks. Thunderbolt also provides 10 watts of power to peripherals, so you can tackle workstation-class projects on the go. With PCI Express technology, you can use existing USB and FireWire peripherals — even connect to Gigabit Ethernet and Fibre Channel networks — using simple adapters.

And because Thunderbolt is based on DisplayPort technology, the video standard for high-resolution displays, any Mini DisplayPort display plugs right into the Thunderbolt port. To connect a DisplayPort, DVI, HDMI, or VGA display, just use an existing adapter.


Currently this tech is only available on the new MacBook Pros. But just like firewire back in the day, I'm sure it will appear on none Apple products soon.

Full Article: http://www.apple.com/thunderbolt/

Intel Tech Sheet: http://www.intel.com/technology/io/thun ... /index.htm

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Post Re: Apple releases Thunderbolt (Lightpeak) I/O Technology.
The downside to this is that Intel has now taken 2 open standards (DP and PCIE) and made them into a proprietary-licensed-connector that requires Intel's host controller chip to operate.

But yes, I can see it's purpose, mainly for audio/video professionals. "Typical" users not so much though, kinda how USB beat out Firewire for consumer usage.

And DP in itself already supports daisy-chaining of monitors, just that most monitors don't have an uplink and downlink port.

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Post Re: Apple releases Thunderbolt (Lightpeak) I/O Technology.
jdrom wrote:
But yes, I can see it's purpose, mainly for audio/video professionals. "Typical" users not so much though, kinda how USB beat out Firewire for consumer usage.


Agreed, however I feel that pretty much all of us here isn't your "Typical" user.

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And DP in itself already supports daisy-chaining of monitors, just that most monitors don't have an uplink and downlink port.


Didn't know that.

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Post Re: Apple releases Thunderbolt (Lightpeak) I/O Technology.
Nataku wrote:
Agreed, however I feel that pretty much all of us here isn't your "Typical" user.

Yeah but I honestly see no use for it myself. I don't do any video work and pulling photos off my DSLR is perfectly fine with USB. Not like SD cards are doing 10Gbps. For that matter, none of our current singe-drive storage mediums do 10Gbps. That's like 1200MB/s? Technology is great and all, but it seems our storage mediums are always the bottleneck. But I guess a full 10Gbps channel probably won't be used for file transfers alone?

Maybe you and BAM might have some use for it, but the rest of us enthusiast/gamer-type probably not.

And looking back at DP stuff: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/18/disp ... to-a-real/ Capable of 21.6Gbps, 4-monitor support at 1920x1200 and it too can apparently handle bi-directional data as well but only 720Mbps tops. Sounds awfully similar to Thunderbolt either way. It's just that DP is having such a difficult time at finding it's place in the market. Seems to me Intel has just "supercharged" DP by using their own host-controller chip and x4 PCIe lanes to provide more bandwidth and power.

We shall see what comes of it though. History tells us that adoption rates of new connectors/connections are rather prolonged, mainly due to the costs associated with changing over all your gear.

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Post Re: Apple releases Thunderbolt (Lightpeak) I/O Technology.
I'm looking at this from a "now that it's here, what can we do with it" perspective. I agree right now we don't really have any use for it. But what will that kind of pipe allow that we haven't thought of yet?

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Post Re: Apple releases Thunderbolt (Lightpeak) I/O Technology.
Fair enough. But by then, won't there be a better I/O interconnect? :P

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Fair enough. But by then, won't there be a better I/O interconnect? :P


Hmmm. Good point.

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It's a stepping stone of things to come ;) I'll leave it at that.

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Post Re: Apple releases Thunderbolt (Lightpeak) I/O Technology.
I thought I'd chime in on this to the point of whatever happened to the "optical" path? Wasn't there some kind of talk about a path using lightwaves? I know that there is the toslink in audio, but wasn't there some kind of talk about laser lightwaves to transfer data?

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I thought I'd chime in on this to the point of whatever happened to the "optical" path? Wasn't there some kind of talk about a path using lightwaves? I know that there is the toslink in audio, but wasn't there some kind of talk about laser lightwaves to transfer data?


Thunderbolt can use either electrical or optical cables according to intel's spec sheet. I assume you need the optical cables to get the full speed.

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Yeah, I went down a bunny trail yesterday on that laser light wave as a data transfer medium. It seems that more research is being done in the area of transmitting data over large areas or even in space. Not much of a need in the desktop as there are several limitations that prohibit the use of laser light in a motherboard ... :think:

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AKHandyman wrote:
Yeah, I went down a bunny trail yesterday on that laser light wave as a data transfer medium. ... :think:


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