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Post It has BEGUN
I've been looking at a new server setup lately. And I've been testing a software configuration for a slightly different than usual virtualization platform on an Opteron 6272 I picked up for a good price, just for testing. I plan on getting rid of the opteron when I'm done.

I'm not building all new, but I will be carrying over my SuperMicro X3DT3-F motherboard. I can't completely break the bank while I'm breaking the bank. I'll be looking at getting a used set of Xeon 5670's or 5680's to replace my 5570's. It looks like the 5670's go for about 400$ each, so two will cost me 800$, but I should be able to sell my pair of 5570's for 400$ which will cover half the cost.

So I picked up this chassis the other day
http://www.supermicro.com/products/chas ... R920LP.cfm

I will be getting you guys pictures, but I loaned my camera out for the weekend.

The chassis is quite beautiful though if I do say so myself. I currently have 6x 150Gb 10k SAS drives I bought for 300$ used. But I plan on putting in 3x 128gb Samsung Pro's, and 3x 256gb Samsung Pro's, along with 12x WD 1Tb Reds, unless a larger capacity red drive comes available in a 2.5" form factor soon

I'm also looking at 2 of these kits, which I think should suffice for now
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6820239890


So now what will I be doing with it you ask? Well, it's going to run CentOS, I know, what does linux need that much hardware for? Well I'm going to be installing ZFS on it for managing storage pools, but then I'm going to use VirtualBox plus PhpVBox for running VM's on top of it.

Storage will be setup in 2 chunks

the 150Gb SAS drives will be in either a 2xRaidZ1 configuration, or a ZFS Mirror+Strip set. I'm undecided whether I want to maximize storage here, or speed. I will also be adding a 128gb SSD for ZIL (write cache), and a 256Gb for read cache. This volume will be running my virtual machine's operating systems.One cool thing I found with ZFS and Vbox, is you can pass a physical volume, or a ZFS block to a VM directly, cutting out some virtual i/o interference as well, see this link

http://schlueters.de/blog/archives/137- ... alBox.html

The 1Tb Red drives will be either in a 3x4 or 4x3 RAIDZ1 configuration to cover my less I/O intensive storage needs along with 2x 128gb SSD's for ZIL, plus 2x256Gb SSD's for read cache.

I figure I may end up with about 50-60Gb memory allocated to Virtual machines, so that will leave a good 30gb+ ram for ARC caching to speed up I/O read performance as well.

I could get some raid controllers, setup some raids, use vmware and call it a day, but i've been using vmware and it's time for something different. The way I'm going now will also give me some massive I/O performance numbers (I think) compared to a typical raid controller, and since I plan on running some big bad extremely I/O intensive database applications, maximizing I/O performance seems like a good idea. And sometimes it's just fun to go outside the box.

VirtualBox is also quite good these days, and with CentOS I can pass through devices to Vbox VM's like a NIC for the WAN port on my virtual PfSense appliance. But it also has an autostart daemon now in recent versions. It's not a type 1 hypervisor, but I think with a slim centos installation, it's going to be fairly close, and what I lose in CPU performance, I will gain in storage performance. The other plus, is that phpvbox is web based, so I won't need to have an application installed to manage VM's like I would with VMWare or XenServer. VBox also supports a large number of guest OS' just like VMware. XenServer or Hyper-V are quite limited in the number of supported Guest OS's so in my mind, they're hardly worth considering.

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Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:58 am
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Post Re: It has BEGUN
well, the hardware hasn't been finalized, so there's not too many pictures yet. But here's a screenshot of CrystalDiskMark in a VM on this host. I did get my SAS cables today, so I hooked up the 6 10k RPM drives I have that I'll be using for running VM's on

The VM has a single core, 2gb ram, and it's running Server 2003 R2 32-bit.

I followed the information on this guide to give the VM access to a raw zfs volume as I will be doing for the rest of my VM's. There's 2 reasons for this. the first, is performance, first and foremost. The second is disk usage, if you read up on ZFS, they don't recommend using thin provisioning for virtual disks on ZFS due to the constant resizing of the virtual drive and the added i/o. So by giving it raw disk access to a zfs volume, the machine gets more direct access to the drives, and zfs defers the unused space which can be allocated elsewhere

http://schlueters.de/blog/archives/137- ... alBox.html

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Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:29 pm
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Post Re: It has BEGUN
fuck this... where are the girls. ~!!!!!

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Post Re: It has BEGUN
stlouis1 wrote:
Server 2003 R2 32-bit.

:naughty: Why the hell would you run an EOL OS?

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Post Re: It has BEGUN
jdrom wrote:
stlouis1 wrote:
Server 2003 R2 32-bit.

:naughty: Why the hell would you run an EOL OS?

I use it for it testing, unfortunately I still have to support it more than I would like to at work. So I have one running as a sandbox. I pretty much have at least one of every OS running in this place somewheres

I finally took pics of the hardware today, while I was installing the RAID controllers that showed up today. I may need shorter SAS cables, but it'll do for now

Supermicro SC216BA-R920LPB - 1158$ + Tax

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3 Dell Perc H310's - 450$ shipped to my door on ebay. Exchange rate tacked on an extra 50$ over the US dollar, sigh. Flashed these to IT mode firmware which is more suitable for ZFS

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See that big long black cable, I cut 21 inches off it because the front panel connector is literally 7 inches away from the connector on the case...

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Unlike the backplane in my slightly older Chenbro RM21706 chassis, this one has some breather holes

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RAID controllers looking purty side by side. but i need low profile brackets.

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Got 16 of these 4gb Samsung sticks last year or the year before from my buddy who does recycling. He got them in a Sun blade that was brand new sealed in the box. He couldn't test it without the backplane so he gutted it. I bought the 64gb of ram and pair of Xeon 5570's for 250$ off him.

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Couple of SSD's on the side there to use for cache devices

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Quad port Gigabit lan card. Paid 60$ for it.

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Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:00 pm
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Post Re: It has BEGUN
that girl has been proven to be fake. they found her prosthesis in her luggage. too bad, would've been nice, total recall come true.

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Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:23 pm
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More pictures. The rear drive bay came in today so I picked it up after work. Had to solder in an extra 4pin molex connector for it since I didn't have an adapter.

Rear hotswap bays, because the 24 at the front just aren't enough. I'm going to put my OS drive here for the host OS. Its currently on a 250gb WD scorpio drive or something, but I plan on moving it to a Mushkin 60Gb SSD I have floating around

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920w 80plus platinum. And there's two of them. I'm pretty sure these are the bulk of the value of this chassis

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I really should get some low profile brackets for these cards sooner than later

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and another full shot. some wire management may be in order...

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Yeah should try to ease the tension on those SAS connectors, flexing the RAID cards quite a bit there.

How noisy is this thing going to be? I presume you got a cellar or something you run it in?

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it's really noisy with the cover off, but with the cover on it's not bad at all for what it is. It sits on top of a cabinet in the back room of my basement where my modem and cisco switch is.

I need to get brackets to actually screw in the raid controllers still so that should help with the flex on those cards, but I think I'm going to look for shorter cables so I can clean up that mess a little

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are you planning on starting a porn site? sure looks that way. i dig.

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Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:49 am
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sorry to disappoint but I'm not hosting a porn site.

I'm building it because I wanted a single contained server to virtualize everything I have currently which includes my domain controller, Windows Distribution Server, Linux Web server, File Server and my Virtual workstation that I have setup as a sandbox.

But I also have a system with the monitoring software that I deal with at work which I actually use to monitor my home systems. But now that I've moved up the chain, I want to setup our cloud hosting platform and setup multiple appservers and load balance them so I can get a little more hands on with it as well as setup a dedicated SQL database and standalone report server. But I also wanted some room to squeeze in extra VM's for testing things with different OS's and not have to shut them down when I'm not using them.

The other thing, is that since I now have some fancier network gear, I can start toying around and splitting things into vlan's so I can refresh myself on some of my networking knowledge because I can

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HA... i do the same thing all on my HTPC. i archived all my collectino of DVD/blu-ray, tv recording, watching tv, hbo, video surveillance throughout the house all through the HTPC. except it seems like you're doing it on a much larger scale.

nice job.

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yeah, I used to have multiple physical boxes running different services but having it contained on a single server just makes more sense when it comes to power usage. especially when you consider that most of those individual boxes sat idle most of the time before. With a virtualized setup it's easy enough to combine things into one system.

As for tv shows and movies, that's all running on a Solaris VM currently on my vmware server. The reason I went that route was because I could pass through the physical drives and let solaris handle the storage using ZFS. Now I'm doing the opposite with the host handling storage and the VM's going on top.

But I have sickbeard running on the solaris VM handling my TV shows which is great because I just add my shows and it downloads them directly to the box that's storing them. I also have my movies stored in digital form now, and I also have my XBMC database stored in a MySQL + phpMyAdmin instance that's shared across multiple media centers so whenever new stuff come out, I update the library on one media center, and all my media centers are updated at the same time. Not to mention I can pause a show or movie on one HTPC and resume on another if I want to move around. I also have Transmission running as a torrent client on the same system because again, everything is stored on my file server where I have redundant storage and transmission has a web interface. So I can manage everything through a web interface from wherever I want. It's going to be fun moving all these items to a new system....

I also have backups of all my steam games on there to save bandwidth should I ever want to reinstall so it saves bandwidth. Since some games are 30+gb to downlaod now, it's worth it since my steam backups alone are over 1tb now.

It's a pain to setup at first I'll admit, but once it's up, it just works and I can manage most of it through a web browser.

speaking of web interfaces, sometimes, when the gf is watching TV, I'll log into the XBMC web interface, and pause shows on her lol

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Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:06 pm
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well, I got some RAM. 48Gb just wasn't enough for VM's and proper Arc caching for ZFS.

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not to mention, I can do things like this because purple

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wow, just wow

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Only 96GB? Why not 144GB?

And is this all just personal usage? Or are you co-locating machines for family/friends?

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it's just for me

and yeah, 96Gb, I picked up 2 48gb tripple channel kits yesterday. leaves me 6 more slots so if I need more, I can double it up

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I did some drive performance testing with DD on the linux host. Basically, I tested reading and writing a 4Gb file at different block sizes ranging from 1K to 8196K, and then I graphed the data and this is what came out

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WOW .... I can't believe you do all this ... I'm glad I just build computers ... just freakin' wow

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