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http://us.store.creative.com/Creative-S ... XDWUCQ.htm

Not that I "need" a new soundcard but this will do some things for me.
Eliminate those 2 cables running from the I/O panel to the card. Helps for a cleaner interior.
Keep me from having to plug my headphones into the bay and have the cable run across my desk.
The control module will bring it all closer to me. HP jack, volume control.
Microcenter has it on sale for 119.00
So....I guess I'll try it.


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You'd be much better off with the ASUS one instead, at least for sound quality.

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I'm afraid of the unknown


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Comixion wrote:
I'm afraid of the unknown

comment of the year.

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This looks interesting.

http://usa.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio_Ca ... r_Phoebus/


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That was the one I was talking about, but was too lazy to find a link to post :P

Supposed to be a pretty good card

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not sure how I feel about a 200 dollar sound card. :think:

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dog2525 wrote:
not sure how I feel about a 200 dollar sound card. :think:

Well if its anything near to what I feel...its quite excrucuiating. 120 is less painful.


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i haven't bought sound cards in age's, been using onboard for the last while.

got me doing some digging those new audigy's and checking out feedback and reviews on them. seems like there's lots who find it better than the asus cards, but that probably works both ways.

i did noticed a few mentions of poor sound quality with the stupid hub thing in-line though.

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i don't know what kind of headphone you have, but that soundcard is crap for the amount of money you're putting into. although not much spec is listed, ie DAC chip, headphone Amp module, Op-Amp Module, but based on the SNR spec alone, it's already light years below what i would expect.

try looking into Asus' Xonar Essence STX. it's the best soundcard you can buy for headphone users. top Audiophile grade, clean sound, nicely amped, and no none sense. not to mention better implementation.

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I assume you are referring to the SB?

Anyways..I am looking at Asus cards this very minute. Lots to choose from but I cant decide. I really need/want the easy access feature of the control pod and the new Asus has just that. Its just a matter of unassing 200 bucks. (sigh) Did Asus ever fix their lame drivers for their soundcards?
Anybody wanna buy a soundcard?
btw: I use the Sennheiser HD 280 pro


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I assume you are referring to the SB?

Anyways..I am looking at Asus cards this very minute. Lots to choose from but I cant decide. I really need/want the easy access feature of the control pod and the new Asus has just that. Its just a matter of unassing 200 bucks. (sigh) Did Asus ever fix their lame drivers for their soundcards?
Anybody wanna buy a soundcard?
btw: I use the Sennheiser HD 280 pro



when it comes to audiophile grade soundcard listening, there's simply only ONE choice. forget about all the other models and options, it's simply Essence STX, nothing else. i also wouldn't recommend using the front panel hookup. that's if you're serious about the quality of your music listening, i would stick to using the high quality dedicated headphone out on the back of the card. when you run a connector to a front panel, you're changing the path and implementation of the analogue sound path. the whole point of buying an audiophile grade soundcard, aside from getting the high end DAC and Amp chips, is buying the better implementation (pathway, shielding etc). when you run a long line from the card to the bracket, you're essentially destroying all that.

the Essence STX is good because it also allows you to play games using dolby headphone.

there's another even higher end called Essence ONE, it's an external setup, that's even farther away from all the loud electrical signal noise of your computer, with even higher SNR and more stages of amplification. but that one is pure headphone out only, no gaming no nothing.

my next upgrade will be the HD650, and hopefully i'll get a set of Tube amp with it. i can then use the Essence STX as processor only and run a pre-out to the Tube amp to drive the HD650.

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Well I took one for the team (so to speak). Only the Z model, so no external dongle thingy, my Razer headset has inline controls anyhow and a long ass cable, so I didn't need anything further.

I'll likely install it tomorrow though and see what it sounds like. Coming from an Auzentech Bravura, this technically has better SNR and uses the new Core3D chipset rather than the X-Fi chip.

This card does look pretty sparse though. I'm fairly confident that it isn't going to produce "audiophile-grade" sound at all. There simply isn't enough components on it.

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Who is this and how did you hack into JDs account? :think:


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LOL

I don't understand what all the fuss is about with all this "audio-phile" grade talk.....mind you, I DJ, we are not about clear sound as much as loud sound, if you hear crackling you've going too far, if you hear skipping you're doing it wrong, and otherwise, all is well in my world of audio

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stlouis1 wrote:
LOL

I don't understand what all the fuss is about with all this "audio-phile" grade talk.....mind you, I DJ, we are not about clear sound as much as loud sound, if you hear crackling you've going too far, if you hear skipping you're doing it wrong, and otherwise, all is well in my world of audio



lol.. it's an expensive hobby, one you won't notice the difference between A or B unless with the right equipment. for most headphones, you likely won't notice any difference between majority of soundcards. but with high end phones at 250ohm or 600ohm the difference is night and day. mind you i was rocking a pair of wireless logitech G35 and thought the sound was just fine. until i venture down the black hole of no return and started a hobby of hi-fi headphones, my world then has opened up. to give you an example, the sound stage between a high end hi-fi phone and a regular logitech phone is like night and day. you can actually hear the presence, and "SPACE', spatial presentation like you're on the stage in a concert hall with the violant playing next to you, or you could tell the piano is 10 ft away from you on the stage at exactly 2 o'clock to your right. it's hard to describe, except it's like going from listening through a cell phone to all of a sudden being on the stage at the concert hall. the spatial presentation, instrument response, and 3 dimensional soundstage are what sets high end audiophile phone apart from what you get from bestbuy, the regular sony, bose phones. truble is, with those high end phones, you really need adequate source or equipment to bring out its best. this is why people spend $800 on a HD700 and pair it with a separate external $1200 DAC, and separate $1500 Tube amp, it's all for its implementation and processing. although price is no guarantee of quality, higher end DACs and Amps are small production boutique products that require tons of R&D, therefore the end product is expensive. for computer based solid state source, Asus Xonar Essence STX is one of the very few soundcards with such implementation and DAC/AMP that actually is up to the quality of many high end external DAC/AMp equipment. it puts many $400~$500 external equipment to shame. if you visit Head-fi.org, you'll see people comparing the STX to many similar performance external setups in the $400~$500 range. you'll also hit a diminishing of return when you start going from a $800 HD700 to a $1200 HD800 phone, the difference is very small, but it's that last bit of reference quality that people are chasing after. my current setup of HD598 is imo the best bang for the buck at a mid-fi phone arena, it gets you really close to what you get with a HD650 or HD700, but at half of the price. but my next upgrade will be HD650 and likely will try out an external Tube Amp. and since the STX has a VERY capable quality Ti DAC chip, i can run the line out to the Tube Amp without having to buy a separate DAC. seriously, most enthusiats buy the STX for its DAC chip, to save the money on spending on a high end DAC, and run line out to their $1500 Tube amp. lol it's a steal.

but all this don't mean shit if you're listening through a $30 skull candy. :lol:

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btw JD i like your camera

btw, when i am not spending time here, i am an active member of AVSforum and Head-fi.org. if anyone is interested, my user name is the same.

i recently just upgraded the home theater setup from 5.1 JBL to 7.1 JBL four way, and to top it off a 60 inch LED tv, damn the wife is pissed. :lol:

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And Im.still using 5.1 with my 70". What am I old skool or something.


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steve, it all depends on your room dimension. 7.1 is not necessary if your room is small to mid size. especially if your couch or listening position is close to the back wall. 7.1 will only make sense if there's at least 4 feet of space between you and the back wall. surround sound is about how you surround yourself with the sounds, sometimes a 5.1 will do the same job as 7.1 it al depends. my living room is large and my couch is 12 feet away from the TV, and another 12 feet from the back wall, so it leaves a lot of sonic holes in between. so 7.1 definitely makes a difference.

another important factor is speaker placement. your front main speakers should be wide apart, preferably more than 6 feet away from each other and slightly angled towards the listener. and in a 5.1 setup, your surround speakers should NOT be directly aiming at the listener or directly on the sides at 90 degrees; instead, they should be slightly to the rear of the listener at roughly 120 degrees angle, and about 6 feet off the ground aiming towards the room, this way it creates a more diffused sound, and more realistic.

if your receiver supports PLIIz/x, and your couch is already pretty much against the back wall, you can add front height speakers, or front width speakers to expand the sound stage and depth.

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Haha, I hadn't bought anything in 'ages', and I had a Xonar DX (your's actually) in the past, so I figured, what the hell!

Largely it sounds the same as my X-Fi-based Auzentech Bravura, the drivers are far better though. The new control panel works much smoother.

One minor annoyance (maybe it'll get fixed in driver updates) is that the SBX Pro enhancements get applied to my SPDIF output when I use DTS Connect or DD Live. That is annoying. I need DTS/DD to upmix 5.1 games to 5.1 on the receiver, otherwise direct SPDIF only gives me 2 channels, but I don't like what SBX does to my speakers. I do enjoy the SBX stuff on my headphones though, definitely gives them much better definition and virtual surround.

So for now, I just need to pop open the control panel and enable/disable SBX depending on what output device I plan to use. Minor annoyance, but an annoyance nonetheless.

And well I may enjoy "good" sound, I'm definitely not an audiophile and don't even want to dive into that market. I'll end up spending way too much for minimal differences.

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