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I decided it was time to consolidate my storage into a neat little box that will run indefinitely (hopefully). I decided to put 4x 3TB Western Digital Red's in it which are designed for NAS usage.

I'm currently building it as a RAID6 array and then I'll test the performance. If it's not satisfactory, I'll go with RAID10 instead. I might give RAID5 a whirl too as that would net me around 8TB vs 5.4TB, but then I only have single drive redundancy. Since I don't immediately need the storage, it gives me time to fully try out all the RAID modes :)

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Post Re: QNAP TS-469L
oh, it's kind of cute.

do get us some benchmarks. I'm really curious how the red drives are. I'm pondering getting 6 3TB Red drives for my new solaris box in the new year, probably around jan/feb

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Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:13 am
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My RAID6 array is almost finished building. It's at 96% after 12 hours.

And yeah, it's a nice little box. Very compact so you can tuck it away.

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Post Re: QNAP TS-469L
what kind of transfer rates are you seeing over network?

I'm seeing about 90-100mb/s peak so far. right now I'm synching a lot small files so it's averaging about 50-60 though. I need to add cache drives to my ZFS box.

what's the web interface like on that thing? anything for AD integration? I suppose I could go read the spec sheet, but asking someone with first hand experience on their thoughts tells a lot more I think

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Post Re: QNAP TS-469L
stlouis1 wrote:
what kind of transfer rates are you seeing over network?

I'm seeing about 90-100mb/s peak so far. right now I'm synching a lot small files so it's averaging about 50-60 though. I need to add cache drives to my ZFS box.

what's the web interface like on that thing? anything for AD integration? I suppose I could go read the spec sheet, but asking someone with first hand experience on their thoughts tells a lot more I think

I'm guessing that transfer rates would be limited by the network connection. So I'm guessing it tops at gigabit, unless it supports link aggregation.

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Yeah I'm seeing roughly 90-100MB/s write with large files and in RAID6. Read speeds seem to vary more so, between 50-100MB/s. Not really sure why but I suppose that's more than sufficient for streaming media and what not. I think part of the issue is that it's relying on SAMBA/SMB translation which seems to be fairly CPU intensive. It's also running EXT4 w/ write caching so there's some obvious translation there too for Windows to work.

Integrates perfectly with AD from what I've done so far. Auto generates home folders for users too when they authenticate to the NAS which is nice. Joining was simple, no worse than joining a Windows machine to a domain. Reads all my groups/users fine. Supports the full set of file/folder permissions from the Windows-side too.

This is all with only a single NIC active. I'm planning on teaming them together once I get another switch.

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Post Re: QNAP TS-469L
Well the latest firmware adds full XBMC to the NAS. Absolutely fantastic. Since the unit is basically silent, plugging it into the TV is perfect.

Seems to run reasonably well too, there's some artifacts in HD MKV's but apparently QNAP is working with Intel to fix this.

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Post Re: QNAP TS-469L
With how many photographs I've been taking recently, I'm going to need one of these soon.

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Well I have no complaints with this so far. Been running quite smoothly and quietly. Just sits there chugging along.

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Post Re: QNAP TS-469L
i have questions in regard to those NAS. i've never owned one and i am thinking about setting one up. since i have multiple PC's in the house and one Mac. my main goal is to centralize all the video and movies (ie MKVs) onto one box that has redundancy. as of right now, all my MKV's are on my HTPC in the living room, which is on 24/7. but there's no redundancy. it's just sitting on one single 3TB drive. ideally i would like to have it setup in RAID 1. i haven't experimented with anything other than RAID 0.

so the question is, will a NAS allow me to plug the NAS directly to my Airport Extreme router through an gigabit ethernet connection? that way i can access the NAS via gigabit through the router. and how will the NAS work say if i want to stream a MKV movie using MPCHC. can i just browse to the NAS from any computer and open it remotely with MPCHC?

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Post Re: QNAP TS-469L
The whole point of a NAS is to plug it into your network. It's Network Attached Storage after all! So yes, plugs in via Gigabit to your network (some cheaper models only have 10/100 though).

You can browse files like any other network share. SAMBA for Windows, NFS or AFP for Mac, etc. My unit has a DLNA/UPnP media server as well, so you could connect those streaming boxes or a tablet or whatever to it that way.

If you get a 4-bay unit, I would suggest using RAID5, RAID6 or RAID10 over RAID1. RAID5 would give you the most space (4x3TB = 8.5TB) but only 1 drive could fail. RAID6 lets any 2 drives fail but you lose space (4x3TB = 6TB). RAID10 offers 6TB as well and 2 drive failure along with performance increases. However the 2 drives have to fail on separate stripes.

As such, I went for RAID6 since I wanted the most redundancy I could get and can live with the performance loss. This way I can hotswap 2 dead drives without losing any data.

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Post Re: QNAP TS-469L
what kind of performance hit are we talking about RAID 6 VS RAID 10. because right now i get 100+MB/s transfering through gigabit. if the performance hit of RAID 6 is going to be less than that, i might give RAID 10 a try.

which NAS barebone unit would you suggest. i don't have $400 to spend. i am thinking maybe somewhere under $200 to spend for the barebone NAS unit, and i'll add a couple 3TB myself.

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Post Re: QNAP TS-469L
I would stick to QNAP or Synology brand-wise. Obviously cheaper units are going to have more of a performance hit due to RAID levels though. I think you can find some Synology units for around $200 but you might have to go with a 2-bay instead.

Right now I still get full gigabit speeds, so 100MB/s read and write, even in RAID6.

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Post Re: QNAP TS-469L
cool, thanks for the valuable input. i'll look around some more.

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